00;00;00;00 - 00;00;06;13 Speaker 2 as an anarchist, I identify with the concept as a moment of. 00;00;06;16 - 00;00;08;12 Speaker 2 Power that can be stopped. 00;00;08;12 - 00;00;42;11 Speaker 2 in a sense. the sun is a symbol of light, and it's usually associated with, like, goodness and positive energy, bringing life and stuff like that. I feel like it being eclipsed out by the moon as a reflection of of darkness, showing that darkness can overcome light, but it also is a positive force in itself, a moment of breaking away from depending on on the sun for everything but the moon. 00;00;42;12 - 00;01;05;15 Speaker 2 Moon controlled water controls certain planetary elements, and it, having its moment of power, I think is a good symbol of showing overcoming higher power. The sun is almighty. We need to know that something that's so powerful and almighty can be stopped for a second. 00;01;05;15 - 00;01;11;15 Speaker 2 yeah, it just it can teach us about ourselves that we don't always have to be submissive 00;01;11;15 - 00;01;16;07 Speaker 2 It just gives me a sense of feeling that things can change. 00;01;16;14 - 00;01;18;08 Speaker 2 And personally, 00;01;18;08 - 00;01;33;02 Speaker 2 I just like I'm attracted more to to darkness. The whole idea is great. You know, I live in a in a sun based society. I at least get my second of going. Yes. It's stopped. You know. End James 00;01;33;02 - 00;01;56;09 Speaker 1 I think the fact that we're able to see and feel, such a dramatic change from our solar system here together on, on Earth and our planet, I think that's particularly what's significant for me, because one of the hallmarks and one of the. 00;01;56;12 - 00;02;18;21 Speaker 1 Pillars of, of the culture and the practice that I follow is that it's not restricted to anyone by caste, creed, gender, their religion or anything of that sort. So the fact that we're all able to experience this together and learn from it together and grow together is what's probably the most significant thing for me. 00;02;19;24 - 00;03;02;20 Speaker 1 Among many things, I feel like eclipses can probably teach us just how large the universe is. You know, it's it's it's really hard to fathom. We. I don't think we can easily imagine and picture what is actually going on and what scale of these things are happening at. But the fact that this eclipse is happening and we're going to be able to experience and feel the change that is going on at such a large scale, I think is a great reminder for us to think about just how large this universe is and the solar system is. 00;03;02;22 - 00;03;06;22 Speaker 1 And I mean, we've heard it multiple times. We're just specks of specks. 00;03;10;23 - 00;03;42;08 Speaker 1 I think so. As far as what eclipses can teach us about the universe or ourselves. I think one in particular is just the scale of the universe in the solar system. And the magnitude of the interactions that are happening at that scale. But I also think it's, another way for us to remind ourselves. Where we fall in in our solar system. 00;03;42;10 - 00;03;52;04 Speaker 1 I, I think it's a very common phrase to hear that we are specks of specks and. 00;03;52;07 - 00;04;43;13 Speaker 1 I think this is a great opportunity to reflect and really investigate and understand ourselves and each other. And what we can do as a community and what we are able to accomplish. You know, even aside from the actual event itself of the moon covering up the sun, if we take a second and look around to see what's going on in Rochester at that time, the events and the gatherings and all of the flair and fun that everybody's trying to create out of the eclipse so that we can all enjoy something together, you know, with food and, a solar eclipse glasses being handed out. 00;04;43;15 - 00;04;51;00 Speaker 1 I think beyond just the event itself, it shows that what we can accomplish together as a community. Right. 00;04;51;00 - 00;04;53;19 Speaker 1 I am thankful you are well. 00;04;53;21 - 00;04;59;04 Speaker 2 My name is Kristin I am Seneca and I am of the Wolf 00;04;59;04 - 00;05;01;21 Speaker 2 the eclipse solar eclipse is. 00;05;01;27 - 00;05;02;26 Speaker 1 Mentioned in some. 00;05;02;26 - 00;05;07;26 Speaker 2 Of these stories. That is when the Confederacy was first founded. 00;05;07;28 - 00;05;09;03 Speaker 1 And this is, you know, 00;05;09;03 - 00;05;09;10 Speaker 1 well. 00;05;09;10 - 00;05;11;05 Speaker 2 Over a thousand years ago. 00;05;11;05 - 00;05;11;14 Speaker 1 all. 00;05;11;14 - 00;05;12;18 Speaker 2 Five of the original. 00;05;12;18 - 00;05;20;01 Speaker 1 Haudenosaunee nations. So Seneca Nation, Cayuga Nation, Onondaga Nation, Oneida Nation, and Mohawk nations, we. 00;05;20;01 - 00;05;21;06 Speaker 2 All came together. 00;05;21;08 - 00;05;23;16 Speaker 1 Under this agreement. 00;05;23;16 - 00;05;26;15 Speaker 2 That we are all brothers and sisters. 00;05;26;15 - 00;05;33;04 Speaker 2 I hope that cultural aspects and cultural understandings still stay for the future generations. 00;05;33;04 - 00;05;36;09 Speaker 1 And it's about doing the work now to make sure that. 00;05;36;11 - 00;05;37;05 Speaker 2 The the seven. 00;05;37;05 - 00;05;38;05 Speaker 1 Generations ahead of. 00;05;38;05 - 00;05;39;07 Speaker 2 Us still. 00;05;39;07 - 00;05;43;11 Speaker 1 Retain that knowledge and that tradition for Haudenosaunee people. 00;05;43;11 - 00;05;48;07 Speaker 1 We can always predict when things are going to happen. We know when the lunar phases are going to happen, and there's just. 00;05;48;13 - 00;05;50;01 Speaker 2 Maybe there's going to be more of that. 00;05;50;02 - 00;05;54;16 Speaker 1 You know, if technology advances and, you know, we get to. 00;05;54;16 - 00;05;56;19 Speaker 2 Learn more about what's beyond our. 00;05;56;19 - 00;05;57;15 Speaker 1 Planet. 00;05;57;15 - 00;05;58;18 Speaker 2 We have this. 00;05;58;18 - 00;06;04;15 Speaker 1 Understanding of that the seven generations behind us, we're making decisions for us. 00;06;04;15 - 00;06;04;28 Speaker 2 So we. 00;06;04;28 - 00;06;07;15 Speaker 1 Have to continue on with. 00;06;07;15 - 00;06;11;05 Speaker 2 Making decisions for the seventh generation ahead of us. 00;06;11;08 - 00;06;12;00 Speaker 1 just making sure. 00;06;12;00 - 00;06;12;16 Speaker 2 That. 00;06;12;17 - 00;06;13;10 Speaker 1 Language. 00;06;13;10 - 00;06;13;29 Speaker 2 Stays. 00;06;13;29 - 00;06;14;09 Speaker 1 And. 00;06;14;09 - 00;06;17;17 Speaker 2 Culture stays. Ceremonies stay. 00;06;17;19 - 00;06;25;05 Speaker 1 and are learned and taught, so that we can keep going and continue on. 00;06;25;05 - 00;06;26;15 Speaker 1 in part of my reconnection. 00;06;26;15 - 00;06;31;08 Speaker 2 Journey to really understand my culture. You know, I'm. 00;06;31;08 - 00;06;33;29 Speaker 1 Still on that journey, and I'm still kind of. 00;06;34;01 - 00;06;35;24 Speaker 2 Figuring those things out. 00;06;35;27 - 00;06;40;04 Speaker 1 And I think, you know, this eclipse is kind of that new beginning in a way. 00;06;40;04 - 00;06;41;14 Speaker 2 It's kind of a new phase that I'm. 00;06;41;14 - 00;06;41;24 Speaker 1 Moving. 00;06;41;24 - 00;06;45;02 Speaker 2 Into with what I do carry. As far as knowledge. 00;06;45;05 - 00;06;48;11 Speaker 1 And just knowing that there's so much more out there for me to learn. 00;06;48;14 - 00;06;49;10 Speaker 2 That it's just that. 00;06;49;10 - 00;06;50;22 Speaker 1 Reminder, you know. 00;06;50;26 - 00;06;52;03 Speaker 2 Of all of these things. 00;06;52;03 - 00;06;53;25 Speaker 1 That, you know, everything is connected. 00;06;53;25 - 00;06;55;13 Speaker 2 We are all a part of this. 00;06;55;15 - 00;06;56;12 Speaker 1 And to be thankful. 00;06;56;12 - 00;06;57;13 Speaker 2 For all of it. 00;06;57;13 - 00;07;12;07 Speaker 1 as I understand it, a solar eclipse is a very special cosmic event. I am personally excited about the scientific implications of seeing one, such as this in person. 00;07;13;13 - 00;07;46;22 Speaker 1 To me, the eclipse does not hold any particular symbolic meaning other than the scientific significance of the event. I would say my religious tradition. Most non theistic Satanists don't hold any importance to, cosmic events as having any kind of supernatural meaning. So I wouldn't think that that many of us would. Would, Revere a solar eclipse as a spiritual event. 00;07;46;22 - 00;07;59;29 Speaker 1 But I'm sure many of us, do appreciate the beauty and the scientific wonder that an eclipse elicits in those of us who view it. 00;08;00;28 - 00;08;37;27 Speaker 1 Personally, I think eclipses can teach us quite a bit about our understanding of the universe in the context of human history. it's only very recently in human history that we even understand what an eclipse is. And I think it's not only fascinating, but also very important that we keep that perspective, going into the future, understanding how much of the universe we still don't understand and, how much of it has a normal, mundane scientific explanation. 00;08;38;00 - 00;08;45;00 Speaker 1 And we should not be ascribing supernatural beliefs on top of the things that we don't understand yet. 00;08;45;16 - 00;09;06;22 Speaker 1 I think in the future generations, I would hope that they would view an eclipse with the same sense of awe and wonder that we do, and hopefully with a greater sense of understanding of the science behind an eclipse and maybe even the ability to view eclipses on other planets with other stars. Begin Raunice 00;09;06;22 - 00;09;32;09 Speaker 2 some people have some really crazy ideas about the eclipse? I mean, for myself, you know, if I, if I am doing this, as I think of it, it can teach me a lot about myself. but I would say that recently I've been, you know, looking at other things and thinking, wow, you know, it's kind of a scary world out there. 00;09;32;11 - 00;09;59;10 Speaker 2 and I think that, I don't know, maybe people need to look inward instead of always looking for some, like, end of the world thing that is happening because of something that naturally occurs. You know, get in touch with nature. this is being a pagan. It's a big part of what we believe is understanding nature. You know, why is this happening? 00;09;59;10 - 00;10;09;06 Speaker 2 Well, it's a natural occurrence. It's not because, you know, we're going to be visited by aliens or it's the end of the world or, you know, all of these things. 00;10;09;06 - 00;10;32;12 Speaker 2 I would hope, as time goes on, that people would become more connected to nature and just see this as a natural occurrence. Not something to be afraid of, not something to hang, you know, like conspiracy theories on. but a time to stop and just observe what's happening. 00;10;32;15 - 00;10;51;16 Speaker 2 We don't stop that often in our world. But on Monday, all these people are going to stop. And I'm hoping that that's kind of what people take forward. And it continues that way. You know, maybe as human beings, we can just make that the day of put your phone down and let's all be together. You know? End Raunice 00;10;51;16 - 00;10;53;14 Speaker 1 I am just a spirit and a vessel. 00;10;53;14 - 00;10;55;23 Speaker 1 I believe we are the center of the universe. 00;10;55;23 - 00;11;09;26 Speaker 1 we live under the firmament, so you can tell what time it is by looking at the sun. And you can tell what day it is of the week by looking at the moon. And you can tell what month it is by looking at the constellations. 00;11;09;29 - 00;11;13;25 Speaker 1 we we just stand still and it's moving around us like a clock. 00;11;13;25 - 00;11;32;15 Speaker 1 I believe that we are on a 13th month calendar and the beginning of the 13 month. The beginning of the new year starts with the new moon, and this year the new moon lands on April 8th, the eclipse. so, I get to celebrate with an eclipse for the new year. 00;11;32;16 - 00;11;34;05 Speaker 1 That's how I look at it. 00;11;44;14 - 00;11;59;21 Speaker 1 the new moon. The sun moon conjunction. When the new moon comes between the sun and the Earth. But, as I believe we are in a enclosed system, so it's just a moon passing in front of the sun. 00;12;00;08 - 00;12;26;28 Speaker 1 So I believe that the earth is a tortoise field. Taurus field. And so the the magnetic north pole is emanating an energy around us. So it's like an a closed system. the I also or the like, you can people call it the firmament. So as in the Bible they would say that, the earth is separated from the, the waters of the heaven. 00;12;27;00 - 00;12;35;14 Speaker 1 And. Yeah. So that's the firmament is it would be in a closed system. That's all. Another way of saying that we're living in a Taurus field.